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Dirk.Rilling
Posts: 2 Location: Malacca |
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Question regarding cooling design |
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Dear Andy,
I have found some interesting results while simulating a exisiting building regarding the cooling design.
Me and some students analyze buildings regarding their cooling load here in Malaysia. For an exisiting bulding, transferred to a DB model, we have found out that, e.g. by increasing the insulating quality of the glazing (from single-uninsulated to up double-glazed and Argon filled), the power requirement regaring the air conditioning increases as well. Especially the solar gains increase.
I thought it would decrease, since, well, you know...why should I buy (here in this region) the very expensive double glazing when at the same time my air conditioning has to run all day long at higher load...
Then I made a counter calculation by just defining a simple cube without any glazing, without HVAC and subjected it to cooling design simulations (design day: July 15th) with increasing insulation quality (from uninsulated medium weight to best practise medium weight). The results are:
* the heat gains and losses decrease (as expected) and are around 0 kW fo best practise.
* the inside temperature are increasing the better the insulation quality is. Hmm...
This is, ehm, interesting. Or am I subjectd to a error of reasoning? I thought it would be easy to show that with increasing insulation quality the cooling load would decrease and hence no need to run my air conditioning at 100% the whole day. Or am I wrong or is it a DB or E+ thing...?
I've attached the simple model of my "cube" as well as the result pictures regaring the temperatures.
Thanks for your support!
Best regards from Malacca/Malaysia,
Dirk Rilling
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| These are the temperatures in quadrupels (air, radiant, operational, outside) with increasing insulation quality (uninsulated, energy code & best practise). |
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Andy Tindale

Posts: 1196 Location: Stroud |
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Dirk,
Relationship between solar gain and number of layers of glazing.
You should find that solar gain is smaller the greater the number of panes of glazing. Single glazing transmits more solar radiation, triple glazing transmits less. The reasons for this are fairly obvious and you can test it within DesignBuilder. Make sure that you compare like with like though. For example reflective single glazing and may transmit less solar radiation than clear double, so be sure to use clear glazing in your tests.
Relationship between cooling load and wall/window/roof insulation levels
If the temperature within the space is higher than outside then clearly high levels of insulation will keep the heat in. This is true during the day but also during the night, so I would expect highly insulated spaces to have much more constant temperatures and so the average temperature may well be higher. Are you considering what happens at night-time? Are you looking at times series temperatures or daily average temperatures?
I've downloaded your test model and simulated it for various constructions and got results which seem reasonable to me - the more the insulation are more constant the temperature with cooler daytime temperatures and warmer night-time temperatures.
I guess ideally you should insulate the building during the daytime to keep the daytime heat out and remove insulation at night-time to provide free cooling! a common approach to reducing daytime cooling loads in the UK is to force cool night-time air over heavyweight concrete slabs which then absorb excess daytime heat thus reducing cooling loads/maximum temperatures.
I hope this helps.
Best regards
Andy
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Dirk.Rilling
Posts: 2 Location: Malacca |
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Question regarding cooling design |
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Dear Andy,
Thanks for your answer regarding our problem(s) here which were very helpful.
However two "problems" remain:
(1) It is not that much the relationship between solar gain and numbers of glazing but the HEAT GAIN BY GLAZING from the windows.
From the Simple Model that I'd create, it was found that the Heat Gain of Triple Glazing+Clear windows is higher than the Single glazing+clear window.
I compare 4 types of glazing templates which are:
1. Single+clear+no shading
2. Double+clear+no shading
3. Triple+clear+no shading
4. Double+clear+LoE+argon filled
The result shows that the AirTemperature of TYPE 4 glazing was the lowest, and TYPE 1 was the highest. But the Heat Gain by Glazing shows that, TYPE 4 Glazing has highest heat gain while TYPE 1 glazing has lowest heat gain, which is exactly the opposite of our insulation purposes here. *looking puzzled*
(2) Another problem occurs at the floor: the better the insulation standard the more more cooling requirement is needed to keep the house at a certain temperature level. *looking puzzled^2*
Actually I have expected the other way around: if I insulate my floor better I provide a higher thermal resistance, so my "cool air" will be kept inside rather than to volatilise through the floor/ground, isn't it? In result, my cooling load is decreased. But what we see here is quite the opposite.
Thanks again for your support!!
With best regards,
Dirk Rilling
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Andy Tindale

Posts: 1196 Location: Stroud |
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dirk,
Sorry about the delay in answering this.
1) Glazing Gains
You have larger "glazing gains" with triple glazing because the inner pane transfers more heat into the building through, convection and longwave radiation. The shortwave solar radiation transmission is less of course and this is recorded in the "Transmitted solar". You will get a better picture if you add the transmitted solar gains to the window gains giving a total contribution to the zone heat balance from the windows. Please bear in mind that the Transmitted solar data does not include diffuse solar radiation retransmitted back out of the window and so is not the same as the "Absorbed solar".
Here is an extract from the new online help:
| Latest (not yet published) online help wrote: | Transmitted solar gains - short-wave solar radiation transmission through Windows. For a bare window, this transmitted radiation consists of solar radiation passing through the glass and diffuse radiation from solar reflected from the outside window reveal, if present. For windows with a shade, this transmitted radiation is totally diffuse (shades are assumed to be perfect diffusers). For windows with a blind, this transmitted radiation consists of beam + diffuse radiation that passes between the slats and diffuse radiation from beam-to-diffuse reflection from the slats.
Glazing heat gain - the total heat flow to the zone from the glazing, frame and divider of exterior glazing excluding transmitted short-wave solar radiation (which is accounted for in Transmitted solar gains below). For windows without an interior shading device, this heat flow is equal to:
+ [Convective heat flow to the zone from the zone side of the glazing]
+ [Net IR heat flow to the zone from zone side of the glazing]
– [Short-wave radiation from zone transmitted back out the window]
+ [Conduction to zone from window frame and divider, if present]
Here, short-wave radiation is that from lights and diffuse interior solar radiation.
For windows with an interior shading device, this heat flow is equal to:
[Convective heat flow to the zone from the air flowing through the gap between glazing
and shading device]
+ [Convective heat flow to the zone from the zone side of the shading device]
+ [Net IR heat flow to the zone from the zone side of the glazing]
+ [Net IR heat flow to the zone from the zone side of the shading device]
– [Short-wave radiation from zone transmitted back out the window]
+ [Conduction to zone from window frame and divider, if present]
The total window heat flow can also be thought of as the sum of the solar and conductive
gain from the window glazing. |
2) Ground cooling
What temperature is the ground set to? If it is set to the default of 14°C then the ground will give considerable cooling and when you place insulation between the zone and the ground you will reduce that cooling effect.
Regards
Andy
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