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'Fabric and Ventilation' output -> "Ex mech vent&

 
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koen.govers



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: 'Fabric and Ventilation' output -> "Ex mech vent& Reply with quote

Hey,

"The zone heat balance" shows all fabric heat gains/losses, but suprisingly not all the ventilation heat losses; it only goes from "Glazing" to "External infiltration".
In 'display options' u can see all these heat gains/losses and 2 additional ones:
- "Ex mech vent" (standard; pink colour) - "Ex nat vent" (standard; dark green).
These options are chosen but somehow the "ex mech vent" isn't shown on the graph although i'm using mechanical ventilation.
Ive tested the output at building and zone level.
If i use 'customisation dialog ...' and go to the 'subsets' tab the options "Ext mech vent" and "Ext nat vent" just aren't there.
So, is this output removed in the recent versions? Or did i miss out on something?

Thanks in advance,
Hans
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Laurent_Support



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Hans,

Do you see Air change per hour values under the heat balance graph?

Laurent
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koen.govers



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Laurent,

Ye I do see that graph.
But e.g. when I define natural instead of mechanical ventilation, I get that air change graph + in the 'Zone heat balance' "Ex nat vent" is shown.
When using mechanical ventilation, the air change graph is shown, but "Ex mech vent" in the zone heat balance isn't.
I think it's missing because the total 'Zone heat balance' adds nowhere near to zero (i know it doesn't add to zero which is explained in a technical note in help, but only somewhere near to it).
Feel free to correct if I'm seeing this wrong Smile
Well i hope this info helps you to understand what i mean. I've also send the file by mail.

Kind regards,

Hans
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Andy Tindale



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cooling effect of the mechanical ventilation is accounted for in the Zone/Sys Sensible Cooling. This is defined in the documentation as:

... the sensible cooling effect on the zone of any air introduced into the zone through the HVAC system. It includes any 'free cooling' due to introduction of relatively cool outside air and the heating effect of any fans present. Cooling always shows as a negative heat gain in the results. It is therefore not the same as a cooling coil energy delivery when mechanical ventilation is involved. It is best thought of as the HVAC cooling contribution to the zone heat balance.

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Andy
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